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BEIJING, Aug 27 (Reuters) - China's Alibaba (9988.HK), opens new tab is likely to highlight its artificial intelligence strategy with its quarterly results on Friday, but in line with its peers Tencent (0700.HK), opens new tab and Baidu (9888.HK), opens new tab, may struggle to show that its big AI investments are paying off. The companies have invested billions of dollars into AI over the past three years following the global success of ChatGPT, hailing it as a key revenue driver. They rolled out their own large language models and infused them into their flagship products. But making money from these efforts has proved difficult so far, as Chinese users, unlike Western customers, have demonstrated strong resistance to paid subscription models, analysts said. Alibaba has been among the most aggressive in China's AI industry, showcasing advancements on an almost weekly basis. The weak contribution from the AI push dampens Alibaba's growth outlook at a time when its core e-commerce business is locked in an intense price competition with rivals to keep consumers spending amid persistent economic weakness in China. Analysts estimate revenue from its cloud business which includes AI-related product sales grew just 4.3% in the April-June quarter from the previous quarter to 31.4 billion yuan ($4.4 billion), according to LSEG data. That would be up 18% from a year earlier, but suggests growth is slowing. Tencent's earnings showed this month that revenue from the business that includes selling AI services is growing more slowly than its core gaming business. Baidu's did not expand fast enough to offset declines in its advertising revenue. When it first launched its Ernie chatbot in late 2023, Baidu attempted a subscription model with a 59.9 yuan monthly fee. But it discontinued the paid service in April after poor take-up by users. "In China, in reality, it's actually very hard to use the user-paid model, which now populates the U.S. AI tools," Tencent President Martin Lau said during the company's earnings call this month. Baidu CEO Robin Li said this week the company would take a "prudent approach" to AI monetisation, while prioritising user experience. SHIFT TO ENTERPRISE CUSTOMERS With consumer subscriptions proving unviable, Chinese AI developers have pivoted to enterprise customers with application programming interface (API) services provided through their cloud platforms. "The consumer market is a challenge for AI developers in China. The more realistic path will be in the enterprise market," said Lian Jye Su, chief analyst at technology research firm Omdia. However, intense competition that started early last year has hammered API pricing, and the price war shows no sign of abating. In May, Alibaba slashed its Qwen-Long model API pricing by 97% to 0.0005 yuan per thousand tokens. A month later, ByteDance cut its Doubao model prices by 63% to as low as 2.6 yuan per million tokens. In a further challenge to the revenue opportunity, many Chinese companies including DeepSeek have committed to open-source their AI models, reducing the incentive for enterprises to buy similar models from cloud platforms. Still, companies argue that AI's importance to their operations goes beyond a direct revenue uplift and that the investments improve their advertising and e-commerce offerings. "The long-term commercial potential is remote but highly visible," said Charlie Chai, an analyst with consultancy 86Research. "The productivity gains across all industries will be substantial, and the enablers (through API, licensing or other delivery formats) will definitely be tapping into a huge market." Alibaba is expected to report quarterly revenue of 252.9 billion yuan on Friday, up 4% from a year ago, according to analysts' average estimate surveyed by LSEG. ($1 = 7.1529 Chinese yuan renminbi) Reporting by Liam Mo and Brenda Goh; Editing by Miyoung Kim and Sonali Paul Our Standards: The Thomson Reuters Trust Principles., opens new tab * Suggested Topics: * Artificial Intelligence Brenda Goh Thomson Reuters Brenda Goh is Reuters' Shanghai bureau chief and oversees coverage of corporates in China. Brenda joined Reuters as a trainee in London in 2010 and has reported stories from over a dozen countries.
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Alibaba results likely to show limited AI payoff for China tech
BEIJING (Reuters) -China's Alibaba is likely to highlight its artificial intelligence strategy with its quarterly results on Friday, but in line with its peers Tencent and Baidu, may struggle to show that its big AI investments are paying off. The companies have invested billions of dollars into AI over the past three years following the global success of ChatGPT, hailing it as a key revenue driver. They rolled out their own large language models and infused them into their flagship products. But making money from these efforts has proved difficult so far, as Chinese users, unlike Western customers, have demonstrated strong resistance to paid subscription models, analysts said. Alibaba has been among the most aggressive in China's AI industry, showcasing advancements on an almost weekly basis. The weak contribution from the AI push dampens Alibaba's growth outlook at a time when its core e-commerce business is locked in an intense price competition with rivals to keep consumers spending amid persistent economic weakness in China. Analysts estimate revenue from its cloud business which includes AI-related product sales grew just 4.3% in the April-June quarter from the previous quarter to 31.4 billion yuan ($4.4 billion), according to LSEG data. That would be up 18% from a year earlier, but suggests growth is slowing. Tencent's earnings showed this month that revenue from the business that includes selling AI services is growing more slowly than its core gaming business. Baidu's did not expand fast enough to offset declines in its advertising revenue. When it first launched its Ernie chatbot in late 2023, Baidu attempted a subscription model with a 59.9 yuan monthly fee. But it discontinued the paid service in April after poor take-up by users. "In China, in reality, it's actually very hard to use the user-paid model, which now populates the U.S. AI tools," Tencent President Martin Lau said during the company's earnings call this month. Baidu CEO Robin Li said this week the company would take a "prudent approach" to AI monetisation, while prioritising user experience. SHIFT TO ENTERPRISE CUSTOMERS With consumer subscriptions proving unviable, Chinese AI developers have pivoted to enterprise customers with application programming interface (API) services provided through their cloud platforms. "The consumer market is a challenge for AI developers in China. The more realistic path will be in the enterprise market," said Lian Jye Su, chief analyst at technology research firm Omdia. However, intense competition that started early last year has hammered API pricing, and the price war shows no sign of abating. In May, Alibaba slashed its Qwen-Long model API pricing by 97% to 0.0005 yuan per thousand tokens. A month later, ByteDance cut its Doubao model prices by 63% to as low as 2.6 yuan per million tokens. In a further challenge to the revenue opportunity, many Chinese companies including DeepSeek have committed to open-source their AI models, reducing the incentive for enterprises to buy similar models from cloud platforms. Still, companies argue that AI's importance to their operations goes beyond a direct revenue uplift and that the investments improve their advertising and e-commerce offerings. "The long-term commercial potential is remote but highly visible," said Charlie Chai, an analyst with consultancy 86Research. "The productivity gains across all industries will be substantial, and the enablers (through API, licensing or other delivery formats) will definitely be tapping into a huge market." Alibaba is expected to report quarterly revenue of 252.9 billion yuan on Friday, up 4% from a year ago, according to analysts' average estimate surveyed by LSEG. (Reporting by Liam Mo and Brenda Goh; Editing by Miyoung Kim and Sonali Paul)
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Alibaba's upcoming quarterly results are expected to highlight its AI strategy, but like its peers Tencent and Baidu, the company may face challenges in demonstrating significant returns on its substantial AI investments.
Alibaba, one of China's leading technology companies, is set to release its quarterly results, with a focus on its artificial intelligence (AI) strategy. However, like its counterparts Tencent and Baidu, Alibaba may find it challenging to demonstrate significant returns on its substantial AI investments 1.
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Over the past three years, these tech giants have poured billions of dollars into AI development, inspired by the global success of ChatGPT. They have introduced their own large language models and integrated them into flagship products. Despite these efforts, monetizing AI has proven difficult in the Chinese market 1.
A key challenge in the Chinese market is the strong resistance to paid subscription models for AI services. Unlike their Western counterparts, Chinese users have shown little interest in paying for AI tools. This resistance has forced companies to reconsider their monetization strategies 2.
Baidu's experience with its Ernie chatbot illustrates this challenge. The company initially launched a subscription model priced at 59.9 yuan per month but discontinued the paid service in April due to poor user adoption 1.
In response to the challenges in the consumer market, Chinese AI developers have pivoted towards enterprise customers. They now offer application programming interface (API) services through their cloud platforms. Lian Jye Su, chief analyst at Omdia, suggests that "the more realistic path will be in the enterprise market" 1.
However, this shift has led to intense competition and a price war in the API market. For instance, Alibaba slashed its Qwen-Long model API pricing by 97% to 0.0005 yuan per thousand tokens in May. ByteDance followed suit, cutting its Doubao model prices by 63% 2.
The challenges in monetizing AI investments are affecting the growth outlook for these tech giants. Alibaba's cloud business, which includes AI-related product sales, is estimated to have grown by just 4.3% in the April-June quarter compared to the previous quarter, reaching 31.4 billion yuan ($4.4 billion) 1.
Tencent and Baidu have reported similar struggles. Tencent's AI services revenue is growing more slowly than its core gaming business, while Baidu's AI-related growth has not been sufficient to offset declines in advertising revenue 2.
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Despite the current monetization challenges, industry analysts remain optimistic about the long-term potential of AI investments. Charlie Chai, an analyst with 86Research, states that "The long-term commercial potential is remote but highly visible" 1.
Companies argue that the importance of AI extends beyond direct revenue generation, emphasizing its role in improving advertising and e-commerce offerings. The productivity gains across various industries are expected to be substantial, with AI enablers potentially tapping into a huge market in the future 2.
As Alibaba prepares to report its quarterly results, analysts expect the company to post revenue of 252.9 billion yuan, representing a 4% increase from the previous year. The tech giant's ability to navigate the challenges of AI monetization while maintaining growth in its core businesses will be closely watched by investors and industry observers alike 1.
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