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Debt investors offloading exposure to software companies is latest sign of pain
NEW YORK, March 17 (Reuters) - Investors are offloading software loans in debt vehicles at a discount, in the latest sign of pain in the software industry, which is being upended by AI. In recent weeks, several managers of collateralized loan obligations (CLOs) have started exploring ways to reduce their exposure to software, as they grapple with the prospect of a wave of rating downgrades on junk bonds and potential defaults down the line, according to three CLO managers and several credit industry analysts. The push to reduce exposure shows how the pain in private credit and software is still working through the system after the software rout in January and February that was largely triggered by the release of Anthropic's latest AI tools, which raised fears of widespread disruption across the technology and professional services industries. "Software is a sector where there is more selling coming from CLO managers than there is buying right now," said Jim Egan, co-head of securitized products research at Morgan Stanley, adding that there was elevated exposure to software within broadly syndicated loans (BSLs), which are corporate loans that are arranged by investment banks and sold to a wide group of credit investors like CLOs. Egan added CLOs currently have lower exposure to riskier companies, which are "CCC" rated, compared to a year ago. CLOs, which buy up small chunks of numerous individual leveraged loans, in recent years capitalized on the credit boom and bought up loans that backed hundreds of software buyouts in the height of a dealmaking boom during and after the pandemic. During the same period, CLOs also hoovered up their holdings in other non-software sectors that are now faced with the existential threat emerging from AI. According to initial estimates from JPMorgan analysts, around $40 billion to $150 billion of U.S. CLO holdings fall â within sectors that are most associated with AI risk. The software and services sector accounts for about 15% of the collateral in currently outstanding syndicated CLO deals in the U.S., according to a Feb. 20 estimate from Morgan Stanley, which added that software alone makes up roughly 12% of CLO holdings, making it the single-largest subsector by concentration. Software exposure in direct lending is estimated to be about 19% based on private-credit focused CLOs, Morgan Stanley said in a March 17 note. WIDENING SPREADS Spreads on CLOs, which are the risk premium that companies pay on the bonds over Treasuries, have widened over the past few weeks as fears of a meltdown in the $1.8 trillion private credit industry have spooked investors. "We're seeing some CLO managers reduce exposure to software -- particularly where positions were overweight or ahead of refinancing activity," said Al Remeza, associate managing director at Moody's Ratings. "At the same time, many view the current environment as a buying opportunity, especially for companies they believe are least vulnerable to AI disruption." A mix of investment-grade notes - which are senior unsecured corporate bonds - and high-yield leveraged loans of some software makers, including Intuit, Dayforce, and Citrix, were sold between a range of 89 cents and 98 cents on the dollar in late February and earlier in March, according to data compiled by the Trade Reporting and Compliance Engine (TRACE), which was developed by the Financial Industry Regulatory Authority to track over-the-counter fixed-income transactions. A few months ago, those same bonds and loans were trading at a premium, the data shows. Reuters could not determine which specific software companies CLOs sold. Dayforce and Citrix did not respond to requests for comment. To be sure, while spreads across the software industry have widened, the spread on Intuit's investment-grade bond that matures in 2033 is largely in line with the level at which it was issued in 2023, â while its credit rating was upgraded to 'A' from 'A-' by S&P Global in October last year. Intuit's shares are down about 32% so far this year, as AI disruption fears have weighed broadly on the enterprise software industry. "We bet the entire company on data and AI nearly ten years ago, when we declared our strategy to be an AI-driven expert platform to deliver done-for-you experiences. Our strategy is working; in the first half of our fiscal year 2026, we delivered 18 percent revenue growth while expanding margins," an Intuit spokeswoman said in an email to Reuters. ASSESSING AI RISK While the current bout of selling could present a unique buying opportunity for distressed debt investors, several credit industry analysts cautioned that the buyer base for large swathes of these loans is thin, adding that most large private credit firms and direct lenders are unlikely to participate in large software loan deals in the near term as they grapple with investor scrutiny amid rising redemption requests at their flagship funds. "The â majority of the CLO community is really taking its time to think about how to come up with a framework to assess AI risk, more on the single-name level, to really scrub their book to identify which are the names that are more prone to AI risk," said Joyce Jiang, head of U.S. CLO Research at Morgan Stanley. "They're still in the middle of doing that, so in the near term we think it's not likely that there's going to be dip buying from the CLO community at a full scale." This is likely to be exacerbated by the fact that CLO managers, who have relatively less exposure to software, are not yet â seeing a strong enough reason to buy up loans that are coming to market, said Gavin Zhu, head of U.S. CLO Research at Barclays. "It's a bit more difficult to suddenly and opportunistically rotate back into software without a true catalyst. And I think that might be contributing to some of the continued weakness that we see on the loan side," said Zhu. Global CLO loan supply is expected to fall to about $150 billion this year, which would mark a 25% decline from last year, according to estimates from JPMorgan. This is because of a sharp decline in investor demand, as widening spreads, question â marks over loan quality, and fears of deepening cracks in the multi-trillion-dollar credit market weigh on sentiment, experts said. However, not all CLO managers are rushing to dump software loans at steep discounts. Credit fund managers and analysts said the recent selling activity, so far, has been selective and concentrated around relatively better-performing loans that have changed hands at a modest discount. Rishad Ahluwalia, head of CLO Research at JPMorgan, said investor sentiment has turned more bearish in recent weeks as spreads have widened and CLO transaction volumes have dipped. "For CLO managers, the appetite for stressed loans in orphan sectors, like software and services, is weaker," said Ahluwalia. Reporting by Anirban Sen in New York, Paritosh Bansal, Matt Tracy, Saeed Azhar and Tatiana Bautzer; editing by Megan Davies and Nick Zieminski Our Standards: The Thomson Reuters Trust Principles., opens new tab * Suggested Topics: * Finance Anirban Sen Thomson Reuters Anirban Sen is the Editor in Charge of Market Structure at Reuters in New York where he leads the news agency's coverage of stock exchanges, and market-making firms including Jane Street and Citadel Securities. Previously Anirban was M&A Editor at Reuters, leading a team of reporters who regularly broke market-moving news about the biggest deals in corporate America. Some of his scoops have included Mars' $36 billion deal for snack maker Kellanova, design software firm Synopsys' $35 billion deal for Ansys, and buyout firm GTCR's $18.5 billion deal for merchant services provider Worldpay. In 2023, Anirban was part of a Reuters team that won a Gerald Loeb Award for the agency's coverage of the collapse of FTX. After starting with Reuters in Bangalore in 2009, he left in 2013 to work as a technology deals reporter in several leading business news outlets in India, including The Economic Times and Mint. Anirban rejoined Reuters in 2019 as Editor in Charge, Finance, to lead a team of reporters in India, covering everything from investment banking to venture capital.
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Debt investors offloading exposure to software companies is latest sign of pain
Investors are offloading software loans in debt vehicles at a discount, in the latest sign of pain in the software industry, which is being upended by AI. In recent weeks, several managers of collateralized loan obligations (CLOs) have started exploring ways to reduce their exposure to software, as they grapple with the prospect of a wave of rating downgrades on junk bonds and potential defaults down the line, according to three CLO managers and several credit industry analysts. The push to reduce exposure shows how the pain in private credit and software is still working through the system after the software rout in January and February that was largely triggered by the release of Anthropic's latest AI tools, which raised fears of widespread disruption across the technology and professional services industries. "Software is a sector where there is more selling coming from CLO managers than there is buying right now," said Jim Egan, co-head of securitized products research at Morgan Stanley, adding that there was elevated exposure to software within broadly syndicated loans (BSLs), which are corporate loans that are arranged by investment banks and sold to a wide group of credit investors like CLOs. Egan added CLOs currently have lower exposure to riskier companies, which are "CCC" rated, compared to a year ago. CLOs, which buy up small chunks of numerous individual leveraged loans, in recent years capitalized on the credit boom and bought up loans that backed hundreds of software buyouts in the height of a dealmaking boom during and after the pandemic. During the same period, CLOs also hoovered up their holdings in other non-software sectors that are now faced with the existential threat emerging from AI. According to initial estimates from JPMorgan analysts, around US$40 billion to $150 billion of U.S. CLO holdings fall within sectors that are most associated with AI risk. The software and services sector accounts for about 15% of the collateral in currently outstanding syndicated CLO deals in the U.S., according to a Feb. 20 estimate from Morgan Stanley, which added that software alone makes up roughly 12% of CLO holdings, making it the single-largest subsector by concentration. Software exposure in direct lending is estimated to be about 19 per cent based on private-credit focused CLOs, Morgan Stanley said in a March 17 note. Spreads on CLOs, which are the risk premium that companies pay on the bonds over Treasuries, have widened over the past few weeks as fears of a meltdown in the $1.8 trillion private credit industry have spooked investors. "We're seeing some CLO managers reduce exposure to software -- particularly where positions were overweight or ahead of refinancing activity," said Al Remeza, associate managing director at Moody's Ratings. "At the same time, many view the current environment as a buying opportunity, especially for companies they believe are least vulnerable to AI disruption." A mix of investment-grade notes - which are senior unsecured corporate bonds - and high-yield leveraged loans of some software makers, including Intuit, Dayforce, and Citrix, were sold between a range of 89 cents and 98 cents on the dollar in late February and earlier in March, according to data compiled by the Trade Reporting and Compliance Engine (TRACE), which was developed by the Financial Industry Regulatory Authority to track over-the-counter fixed-income transactions. A few months ago, those same bonds and loans were trading at a premium, the data shows. Reuters could not determine which specific software companies CLOs sold. Dayforce and Citrix did not respond to requests for comment. To be sure, while spreads across the software industry have widened, the spread on Intuit's investment-grade bond that matures in 2033 is largely in line with the level at which it was issued in 2023, while its credit rating was upgraded to 'A' from 'A-' by S&P Global in October last year. Intuit's shares are down about 32 per cent so far this year, as AI disruption fears have weighed broadly on the enterprise software industry. "We bet the entire company on data and AI nearly ten years ago, when we declared our strategy to be an AI-driven expert platform to deliver done-for-you experiences. Our strategy is working; in the first half of our fiscal year 2026, we delivered 18 percent revenue growth while expanding margins," an Intuit spokeswoman said in an email to Reuters. While the current bout of selling could present a unique buying opportunity for distressed debt investors, several credit industry analysts cautioned that the buyer base for large swathes of these loans is thin, adding that most large private credit firms and direct lenders are unlikely to participate in large software loan deals in the near term as they grapple with investor scrutiny amid rising redemption requests at their flagship funds. "The majority of the CLO community is really taking its time to think about how to come up with a framework to assess AI risk, more on the single-name level, to really scrub their book to identify which are the names that are more prone to AI risk," said Joyce Jiang, head of U.S. CLO Research at Morgan Stanley. "They're still in the middle of doing that, so in the near term we think it's not likely that there's going to be dip buying from the CLO community at a full scale." This is likely to be exacerbated by the fact that CLO managers, who have relatively less exposure to software, are not yet seeing a strong enough reason to buy up loans that are coming to market, said Gavin Zhu, head of U.S. CLO Research at Barclays. "It's a bit more difficult to suddenly and opportunistically rotate back into software without a true catalyst. And I think that might be contributing to some of the continued weakness that we see on the loan side," said Zhu. Global CLO loan supply is expected to fall to about $150 billion this year, which would mark a 25 per cent decline from last year, according to estimates from JPMorgan. This is because of a sharp decline in investor demand, as widening spreads, question marks over loan quality, and fears of deepening cracks in the multi-trillion-dollar credit market weigh on sentiment, experts said. However, not all CLO managers are rushing to dump software loans at steep discounts. Credit fund managers and analysts said the recent selling activity, so far, has been selective and concentrated around relatively better-performing loans that have changed hands at a modest discount. Rishad Ahluwalia, head of CLO Research at JPMorgan, said investor sentiment has turned more bearish in recent weeks as spreads have widened and CLO transaction volumes have dipped. "For CLO managers, the appetite for stressed loans in orphan sectors, like software and services, is weaker," said Ahluwalia.
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Debt investors offloading exposure to software companies is latest sign of pain
NEW YORK, March 17 (Reuters) - Investors are offloading software loans in debt vehicles at a discount, in the latest sign of pain in the software industry, which is being upended by AI. In recent weeks, several managers of collateralized loan obligations (CLOs) have started exploring ways to reduce their exposure to software, as they grapple with the prospect of a wave of rating downgrades on junk bonds and potential defaults down the line, according to three CLO managers and several credit industry analysts. The push to reduce exposure shows how the pain in private credit and software is still working through the system after the software rout in January and February that was largely triggered by the release of Anthropic's latest AI tools, which raised fears of widespread disruption across the technology and professional services industries. "Software is a sector where there is more selling coming from CLO managers than there is buying right now," said Jim Egan, co-head of securitized products research at Morgan Stanley, adding that there was elevated exposure to software within broadly syndicated loans (BSLs), which are corporate loans that are arranged by investment banks and sold to a wide group of credit investors like CLOs. Egan added CLOs currently have lower exposure to riskier companies, which are "CCC" rated, compared to a year ago. CLOs, which buy up small chunks of numerous individual leveraged loans, in recent years capitalized on the credit boom and bought up loans that backed hundreds of software buyouts in the height of a dealmaking boom during and after the pandemic. During the same period, CLOs also hoovered up their holdings in other non-software sectors that are now faced with the existential threat emerging from AI. According to initial estimates from JPMorgan analysts, around $40 billion to $150 billion of U.S. CLO holdings fall within sectors that are most associated with AI risk. The software and services sector accounts for about 15% of the collateral in currently outstanding syndicated CLO deals in the U.S., according to a Feb. 20 estimate from Morgan Stanley, which added that software alone makes up roughly 12% of CLO holdings, making it the single-largest subsector by concentration. Software exposure in direct lending is estimated to be about 19% based on private-credit focused CLOs, Morgan Stanley said in a March 17 note. WIDENING SPREADS Spreads on CLOs, which are the risk premium that companies pay on the bonds over Treasuries, have widened over the past few weeks as fears of a meltdown in the $1.8 trillion private credit industry have spooked investors. "We're seeing some CLO managers reduce exposure to software -- particularly where positions were overweight or ahead of refinancing activity," said Al Remeza, associate managing director at Moody's Ratings. "At the same time, many view the current environment as a buying opportunity, especially for companies they believe are least vulnerable to AI disruption." A mix of investment-grade notes - which are senior unsecured corporate bonds - and high-yield leveraged loans of some software makers, including Intuit, Dayforce, and Citrix, were sold between a range of 89 cents and 98 cents on the dollar in late February and earlier in March, according to data compiled by the Trade Reporting and Compliance Engine (TRACE), which was developed by the Financial Industry Regulatory Authority to track over-the-counter fixed-income transactions. A few months ago, those same bonds and loans were trading at a premium, the data shows. Reuters could not determine which specific software companies CLOs sold. Dayforce and Citrix did not respond to requests for comment. To be sure, while spreads across the software industry have widened, the spread on Intuit's investment-grade bond that matures in 2033 is largely in line with the level at which it was issued in 2023, while its credit rating was upgraded to 'A' from 'A-' by S&P Global in October last year. Intuit's shares are down about 32% so far this year, as AI disruption fears have weighed broadly on the enterprise software industry. "We bet the entire company on data and AI nearly ten years ago, when we declared our strategy to be an AI-driven expert platform to deliver done-for-you experiences. Our strategy is working; in the first half of our fiscal year 2026, we delivered 18 percent revenue growth while expanding margins," an Intuit spokeswoman said in an email to Reuters. ASSESSING AI RISK While the current bout of selling could present a unique buying opportunity for distressed debt investors, several credit industry analysts cautioned that the buyer base for large swathes of these loans is thin, adding that most large private credit firms and direct lenders are unlikely to participate in large software loan deals in the near term as they grapple with investor scrutiny amid rising redemption requests at their flagship funds. "The majority of the CLO community is really taking its time to think about how to come up with a framework to assess AI risk, more on the single-name level, to really scrub their book to identify which are the names that are more prone to AI risk," said Joyce Jiang, head of U.S. CLO Research at Morgan Stanley. "They're still in the middle of doing that, so in the near term we think it's not likely that there's going to be dip buying from the CLO community at a full scale." This is likely to be exacerbated by the fact that CLO managers, who have relatively less exposure to software, are not yet seeing a strong enough reason to buy up loans that are coming to market, said Gavin Zhu, head of U.S. CLO Research at Barclays. "It's a bit more difficult to suddenly and opportunistically rotate back into software without a true catalyst. And I think that might be contributing to some of the continued weakness that we see on the loan side," said Zhu. Global CLO loan supply is expected to fall to about $150 billion this year, which would mark a 25% decline from last year, according to estimates from JPMorgan. This is because of a sharp decline in investor demand, as widening spreads, question marks over loan quality, and fears of deepening cracks in the multi-trillion-dollar credit market weigh on sentiment, experts said. However, not all CLO managers are rushing to dump software loans at steep discounts. Credit fund managers and analysts said the recent selling activity, so far, has been selective and concentrated around relatively better-performing loans that have changed hands at a modest discount. Rishad Ahluwalia, head of CLO Research at JPMorgan, said investor sentiment has turned more bearish in recent weeks as spreads have widened and CLO transaction volumes have dipped. "For CLO managers, the appetite for stressed loans in orphan sectors, like software and services, is weaker," said Ahluwalia. (Reporting by Anirban Sen in New York, Paritosh Bansal, Matt Tracy, Saeed Azhar and Tatiana Bautzer; editing by Megan Davies and Nick Zieminski)
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Debt investors are offloading exposure to software companies at steep discounts as collateralized loan obligation managers brace for rating downgrades and defaults. The selloff follows Anthropic's AI tool release, which sparked fears of widespread disruption across the $1.8 trillion private credit industry. Software loans that traded at a premium months ago now sell for 89 to 98 cents on the dollar.

Debt investors are selling software loans at a discount in what marks the latest sign of strain rippling through an industry confronting AI disruption. In recent weeks, several collateralized loan obligation managers have begun exploring ways to reduce their significant exposure to the software sector, as they prepare for potential rating downgrades and defaults down the line, according to three CLO managers and several credit industry analysts . The push to offload these positions reveals how the pain in private credit and software continues working through the system following the software rout in January and February, largely triggered by the release of Anthropic's latest AI tools, which raised fears of widespread disruption across the technology and professional services industries
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."Software is a sector where there is more selling coming from CLO managers than there is buying right now," said Jim Egan, co-head of securitized products research at Morgan Stanley, highlighting the elevated exposure to software within broadly syndicated loans . Collateralized Loan Obligations (CLOs), which buy up small chunks of numerous individual leveraged loans, had capitalized on the credit boom during and after the pandemic, purchasing loans that backed hundreds of software buyouts. The software and services sector now accounts for about 15% of the collateral in currently outstanding syndicated CLO deals in the U.S., with software alone making up roughly 12% of CLO holdingsâthe single-largest subsector by concentration, according to a February 20 estimate from Morgan Stanley
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. Software exposure in direct lending is estimated to be about 19% based on private-credit focused CLOs, Morgan Stanley said in a March 17 note2
.Spreads on CLOs, which represent the risk premium that companies pay on bonds over Treasuries, have widened over the past few weeks as fears of a meltdown in the $1.8 trillion private credit industry have spooked investor sentiment . According to initial estimates from JPMorgan analysts, around $40 billion to $150 billion of U.S. CLO holdings fall within sectors that are most associated with AI risk
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. A mix of investment-grade notes and high-yield leveraged loans of some software makers, including Intuit, Dayforce, and Citrix, were sold between a range of 89 cents and 98 cents on the dollar in late February and earlier in March, according to data compiled by the Trade Reporting and Compliance Engine (TRACE)3
. A few months ago, those same junk bonds and loans were trading at a premium, the data shows .Related Stories
"We're seeing some CLO managers reduce exposure to softwareâparticularly where positions were overweight or ahead of refinancing activity," said Al Remeza, associate managing director at Moody's Ratings. "At the same time, many view the current environment as a buying opportunity, especially for companies they believe are least vulnerable to AI disruption"
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. Intuit's shares are down about 32% so far this year, as AI disruption fears have weighed broadly on the enterprise software industry, though the company reported 18 percent revenue growth while expanding margins in the first half of fiscal year 2026 . While the current bout of selling could present a unique buying opportunity for distressed debt investors, several credit industry analysts cautioned that the buyer base for large swathes of these loans is thin. Most large private credit firms and direct lenders are unlikely to participate in large software loan deals in the near term as they grapple with investor scrutiny amid rising redemption requests at their flagship funds3
. The market now faces a critical period where credit rating downgrades could accelerate defaults, testing whether software companies can adapt quickly enough to justify their debt loads in an AI-transformed landscape.Summarized by
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