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Sam Altman would like remind you that humans use a lot of energy, too | TechCrunch
OpenAI CEO Sam Altman addressed concerns about AI's environmental impact this week while speaking at an event hosted by The Indian Express. For one thing, Altman -- who was in India for a major AI summit -- said concerns about AI's water usage are "totally fake," though he acknowledged it was a real issue when "we used to do evaporative cooling in data centers." "Now that we don't do that, you see these things on the internet where, 'Don't use ChatGPT, it's 17 gallons of water for each query' or whatever," Altman said. "This is completely untrue, totally insane, no connection to reality." He added that it's "fair" to be concerned about "the energy consumption -- not per query, but in total, because the world is now using so much AI." In his view, this means the world needs to "move towards nuclear or wind and solar very quickly." There's no legal requirement for tech companies to disclose how much energy and water they use, so scientists have been trying to study it independently. Data centers have also been connected to rising electricity prices. Citing a previous conversation with Bill Gates, the interviewer asked whether it's accurate to say a single ChatGPT query currently uses the equivalent of 1.5 iPhone battery charges, to which Altman replied, "There's no way it's anything close to that much." Altman also complained that many discussions about ChatGPT's energy usage are "unfair," especially when they focus on "how much energy it takes to train an AI model, relative to how much it costs a human to do one inference query." "But it also takes a lot of energy to train a human," Altman said. "It takes like 20 years of life and all of the food you eat during that time before you get smart. And not only that, it took the very widespread evolution of the 100 billion people that have ever lived and learned not to get eaten by predators and learned how to figure out science and whatever, to produce you." So in his view, the fair comparison is, "If you ask ChatGPT a question, how much energy does it take once its model is trained to answer that question versus a human? And probably, AI has already caught up on an energy efficiency basis, measured that way." You can watch the full interview below. The conversation about water and energy usage begins at around 26:35.
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AI energy efficiency comparisons 'unfair' bleats Sam Altman, citing amount of energy needed to evolve, then train a human -- one 'takes like 20 years of life and all of the food you eat during that time before you get smart' he argues
'AI has already caught up... measured that way' asserts the AI mogul. OpenAI CEO Sam Altman took part in a wide ranging Q&A on Friday, answering dozens of rapid-fire questions during a 60 minute session hosted by The Indian Express. Not for the first time, Altman stoked controversy. This time, he bemoaned "unfair" comparisons between the efficiency of AI inference queries and human thought. In Altman's view the comparison is skewed as humans have millennia of evolutionary smarts and technology teachings behind them, yet individuals require "like 20 years of life and all of the food you eat during that time before you get smart." Chief Nerd clipped the eyebrow-raising Q&A segment for convenient sharing. In the above video segment, the AI business torchbearer begins by stating "One of the things that is always unfair in this comparison is people talk about how much energy it takes to train an AI model relative to how much it costs a human to do one inference query." But, according to Altman, it also takes a lot of energy to train a human. "It takes like 20 years of life and all of the food you eat during that time before you get smart," the OpenAI CEO said to the assembled audience awaiting gems of wisdom. Moreover, Altman wants to roll in the "evolution of the hundred billion people," and humanity's progress to "not to get eaten by predators and learn how to like figure out science and whatever," into the equation. If we did that calculation, Altman appears to reason, "probably AI has already caught up on an energy efficiency basis... Measured that way." OpenAI tech also evolved - from the minds and technological feats of humans We see a few leaps in Altman's expanded-timeline human vs AI efficiency comparison logic, that need to be addressed. For example, shouldn't the AI computing world also roll in the prior 'energy cost' of human evolution, the Renaissance, and so on? Aliens didn't provide the blueprints for ENIAC. Some commentators have also argued that Altman is dehumanizing by reducing childhood, learning, and growth to their energy inputs. Others even wonder if Altman would prefer to see resources diverted from human to machine intelligence. However, beyond the confines of this Tweet clip, to give it more context and be fairer to the OpenAI boss, he also takes the time to push for more sustainable energy solutions. Tapping more into sustainable resources would take massive consumers like OpenAI a little more out of the firing line as scarce resource competitors, as folks' utility bills inch higher and higher. The above Q&A took place in the wake of Altman, and other AI high rollers, meeting with PM Narendra Modi during a highly publicized week that underscored India's importance as an AI growth engine. Follow Tom's Hardware on Google News, or add us as a preferred source, to get our latest news, analysis, & reviews in your feeds.
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OpenAI CEO Sam Altman defended AI's environmental impact at an Indian Express event, arguing that energy usage comparison between AI and humans are unfair because they ignore the 20 years and food needed to train a human, plus millennia of evolution. He also dismissed AI water usage concerns as "totally fake" while acknowledging the need for sustainable energy solutions.
Sam Altman, CEO of OpenAI, stirred controversy during a Q&A session hosted by The Indian Express in India, where he addressed mounting concerns about the environmental impact of AI. Speaking at a major AI summit, Altman argued that AI energy efficiency comparisons between machine and human intelligence are fundamentally "unfair" because they fail to account for the full energy cost of human development
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Altman took issue with critics who focus on "how much energy it takes to train an AI model, relative to how much it costs a human to do one inference query." He countered that "it also takes a lot of energy to train a human," emphasizing that "it takes like 20 years of life and all of the food you eat during that time before you get smart"
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. The OpenAI chief expanded his argument further, suggesting that the calculation should include "the very widespread evolution of the 100 billion people that have ever lived and learned not to get eaten by predators and learned how to figure out science and whatever"1
. According to Altman, when measured this way, "probably AI has already caught up on an energy efficiency basis"2
.Addressing AI water usage concerns, Altman dismissed them as "totally fake," though he acknowledged the issue was real "when we used to do evaporative cooling in data centers." He specifically called out claims circulating online suggesting ChatGPT uses 17 gallons of water per query, calling this "completely untrue, totally insane, no connection to reality"
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. When asked whether a single ChatGPT query uses the equivalent of 1.5 iPhone battery charges in a conversation referencing Bill Gates, Altman replied, "There's no way it's anything close to that much"1
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Despite his defensive stance on energy usage comparison between AI and humans, Altman conceded it's "fair" to be concerned about AI's significant energy consumption "not per query, but in total, because the world is now using so much AI"
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. He advocated for sustainable energy solutions, stating the world needs to "move towards nuclear or wind and solar very quickly" to address the growing demands of machine intelligence1
. This push for nuclear power, wind power, and solar power comes as data centers have been connected to rising electricity prices, and tech companies face no legal requirement to disclose their energy and water usage, forcing scientists to study it independently1
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Altman's arguments drew immediate criticism for apparent logical inconsistencies. Commentators pointed out that if human evolution energy cost should be factored into AI energy efficiency comparisons, then the AI computing world should also account for the same human evolution, the Renaissance, and technological progress that enabled AI development in the first place
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. Others argued Altman's framing dehumanizes childhood, learning, and growth by reducing them to energy inputs, while some questioned whether he would prefer resources diverted from human thought to machine intelligence2
. The Q&A took place during a highly publicized week in India where Altman and other AI executives met with PM Narendra Modi, underscoring India's importance as an AI growth engine2
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